Support MycoNote →

MycoNote

How to tell Weeping widow from Funeral bell

Funeral bell is deadly poisonous

Weeping widow and Funeral bell look alike, so they're easy to mix up — but Weeping widow is inedible, while Funeral bell is deadly poisonous. The main visible difference: substrate: Weeping widow — soil, Funeral bell — dead wood, on wood, moss. The mushrooms also differ in the following features: cap surface, size. If you have even the slightest doubt, leave the mushroom be.

Not sure? Identify by photo

Side by side

Weeping widowFuneral bell
Comparison of characteristics: Weeping widow and Funeral bell
Edibility classWeeping widow: InedibleFuneral bell: Deadly poisonous
SeasonWeeping widow: Summer, AutumnFuneral bell: Summer, Autumn, Winter
SizeWeeping widow: Medium (5–15 cm)Funeral bell: Small (up to 5 cm)
Cap colourWeeping widow: Brown, Orange, RustyFuneral bell: Brown, Rusty, Yellow
Cap shapeWeeping widow: Convex, UmbonateFuneral bell: Convex, Flat, Umbonate
Cap surfaceWeeping widow: Fibrous, Scaly, DryFuneral bell: Smooth, Slimy
TasteWeeping widow: —Funeral bell: Mealy taste
SmellWeeping widow: OdourlessFuneral bell: Floury, Odourless
Ring (veil)Weeping widow: Cobweb-like, Ring remnantsFuneral bell: Ring present, Ring remnants
SubstrateWeeping widow: SoilFuneral bell: Dead wood, On wood, Moss
Partner treesWeeping widow: —Funeral bell: Spruce, Pine, Fir, Beech, Birch, Aspen, Poplar, Hornbeam

Same in both: use, flesh colour change, hymenophore, stem, nutrition type, growth habit.

When and where they meet

Together: August–November

Their seasons overlap: August–November. At that time you can find both in the same woods. Shared habitats: mixed forest, deciduous forest.

Weeping widow

Fruiting season

June – November

Funeral bell

Fruiting season

August – December

What they look like

Cap, Hymenophore, Stem, Flesh, Smell

Cap

Weeping widow

The cap is 3 to 10 cm across, occasionally 12 cm. It starts bell-shaped or hemispherical with an inrolled margin, then becomes convex to almost flat, usually with a low, broad bump.

The surface is dry and densely fibrous, woolly or finely scaly, with fibres radiating from the centre. It's tawny, ochre or yellow-brown, darker in the centre. A pale, ragged fringe of veil hangs from the edge and wears off with age.

Funeral bell

The cap is small, 1.5 to 5 cm across and rarely up to 7 cm. It starts convex with an inrolled margin, then opens out almost flat, sometimes with a small bump in the middle.

The colour is honey yellow, ochre or tawny brown. The surface is smooth and slightly sticky in wet weather, and the margin is translucent, so you can see the lines of the gills through it. The cap is hygrophanous: it turns noticeably paler as it dries and is often two-toned. Sheathed woodtuft changes in exactly the same way, so cap colour won't separate them.

Hymenophore

Weeping widow

The gills are attached and crowded, pale yellow-brown at first, then dark brown, mottled and almost black, with white edges. In damp weather droplets form along the edges, turn black with spores and leave dark spots. On young caps a cobweb-like veil covers the gills.

The spore print is black or blackish brown.

Funeral bell

The gills are attached to the stem or run slightly down it, and they are crowded and narrow. Pale ochre or yellowish at first, they turn rusty brown as the spores ripen.

The spore print is rusty brown. That rules out honey fungus and velvet shank (white prints) and sulphur tuft and conifer tuft (purple-brown to almost black). It won't rule out sheathed woodtuft, though, whose print is the same colour. The spores are warty, roughly 8–10 × 5–6 µm, clearly larger and rougher than the smooth spores of woodtuft, but that only shows under a microscope.

Stem

Weeping widow

The stem is 5 to 12 cm tall and 0.5 to 1.5 cm thick, whitish at the top and browner below, fibrous or scaly, hollow and brittle.

There's no true ring: near the top the veil leaves a fibrous ring zone that turns black with spores, like a pen line round the stem.

Funeral bell

The stem is slender, 2 to 7 cm long and 3 to 8 mm thick, even, and hollow with age. It is pale at the top and darkens to brown or reddish brown towards the base. Below the ring it is covered in pale silvery fibres running lengthwise, without the shaggy scales of sheathed woodtuft. White felty mycelium is visible at the base.

The ring is thin, membranous, whitish to yellowish, and soon turns brown from the spores. It's fragile: often all that's left is a brown band on the stem, and old specimens can lose it entirely. So a missing ring doesn't mean it isn't a funeral bell. There is no volva at the base.

Flesh

Weeping widow

The flesh is thin, whitish to watery brown, browner at the stem base, and doesn't change colour when cut.

Funeral bell

The flesh is thin, yellowish to watery brown and darker in the stem. It doesn't change colour when cut.

Smell

Weeping widow

The smell is indistinct.

Funeral bell

The smell is often mealy, like fresh flour, especially when the mushroom is crushed. It can also be very faint, so field guides don't treat smell as a reliable feature, and it won't tell a funeral bell from a woodtuft.

Related comparisons

Sources · 29

  • [1]Index Fungorum
  • [2]GBIF
  • [3]iNaturalist Ukraine
  • [4]First Nature, Pat O'Reilly
  • [5]MushroomExpert.com, Michael Kuo
  • [6]Wikipedia (English)
  • [7]Вікіпедія (українська)
  • [8]Википедия (русская)
  • [9]Prydiuk M.P. Representatives of the genus Galerina (Hymenogastraceae) with pleurocystidia in Ukraine. Ukrainian Botanical Journal, 2020, 77(4): 270–282, Prydiuk M.P. (2020)
  • [10]Prylutskyi O. et al. Reference-based checklist of gilled Agaricales from Ukraine. Biodiversity Data Journal, 2023, 11: e99101, Prylutskyi O. et al. (2023)
  • [11]Gulden G., Dunham S., Stockman J. DNA studies in the Galerina marginata complex. Mycological Research, 2001, 105(4): 432–440, Gulden G., Dunham S., Stockman J. (2001)
  • [12]Enjalbert F. et al. Amatoxins in wood-rotting Galerina marginata. Mycologia, 2004, 96(4): 720–729, Enjalbert F. et al. (2004)
  • [13]Vo K.T. et al. Amanita phalloides mushroom poisonings, Northern California, December 2016. MMWR, 2017, 66(21): 549–553, Vo K.T. et al. (2017)
  • [14]IPCS INCHEM: Amatoxins, Poisons Information Monograph
  • [15]California Department of Public Health: Foraged wild mushrooms health alert
  • [16]Wikipedia (de): Gifthäubling
  • [17]Wikipedia (de): Gemeines Stockschwämmchen
  • [18]Landkreis Zwickau: Stubbenpilze (пам'ятка про гриби на пнях)
  • [19]Species Fungorum
  • [20]First Nature: Lacrymaria lacrymabunda, Weeping Widow
  • [21]First Nature: Hebeloma crustuliniforme, Poisonpie
  • [22]Kuo M., MushroomExpert: Lacrymaria velutina
  • [23]Wild Food UK: Weeping Widow
  • [24]The Foraging Course Company: Foraging guide, Weeping Widow
  • [25]Mushroom Appreciation: Weeping Widow Mushroom
  • [26]Watling R. Studies in the genera Lacrymaria and Panaeolus. Notes from the Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh, 1979, 37(2), Watling R. (1979)
  • [27]Wikipedia (de): Tränender Saumpilz
  • [28]Шульга В. М. Світ грибів України: Лакримарія бархатиста
  • [29]GBIF: знахідки Lacrymaria lacrymabunda в Україні