How to tell Velvet rollrim from Brown rollrim
How they differ, how to recognize them and which is more dangerous — a mushroom comparison
Warning: Brown rollrim(Paxillus involutus)
POISONOUS
Eating it causes poisoning. Do not pick it unless you have identified it with certainty.
The brown rollrim antigen makes the body produce antibodies; on repeated eating, antigen–antibody complexes settle on red blood cells and cause autoimmune hemolytic anemia (Paxillus syndrome). Avoid completely.
If you suspect poisoning, call an ambulance immediately: 112 (the European emergency number) or your local emergency number
The short answer
Velvet rollrim and Brown rollrim look alike, so they're easy to mix up — but Velvet rollrim is inedible, while Brown rollrim is poisonous. The main visible difference: size: Velvet rollrim — medium (5–15 cm), large (over 15 cm), Brown rollrim — medium (5–15 cm). The mushrooms also differ in the following features: cap color, cap shape, smell. If you have even the slightest doubt, leave the mushroom be.

Brown rollrim
Paxillus involutus

Velvet rollrim
Tapinella atrotomentosa
📊 Comparing characteristics
⚠ Highlighted rows are the key differences between the edible and the dangerous mushroom
| Characteristic | Brown rollrim | Velvet rollrim |
|---|---|---|
| ⚠ Edibility class | Brown rollrim Poisonous | Velvet rollrim Inedible |
| Season | Brown rollrim SummerAutumn | Velvet rollrim SummerAutumn |
| Use | Brown rollrim Not eaten | Velvet rollrim Not eaten |
| ⚠ Size | Brown rollrim Medium (5–15 cm) | Velvet rollrim Medium (5–15 cm)Large (over 15 cm) |
| ⚠ Cap color | Brown rollrim BrownOlive | Velvet rollrim BrownRustyDark brown |
| ⚠ Cap shape | Brown rollrim ConcaveFunnel-shaped | Velvet rollrim ConvexDepressedIrregular |
| Cap surface | Brown rollrim DryVelvety | Velvet rollrim VelvetyDry |
| Taste | Brown rollrim Bitter | Velvet rollrim Bitter |
| ⚠ Smell | Brown rollrim Earthy | Velvet rollrim Neutral |
| Flesh color change | Brown rollrim Darkens | Velvet rollrim Darkens |
| Hymenophore | Brown rollrim Gilled | Velvet rollrim Gilled |
| ⚠ Stem | Brown rollrim CentralSolid | Velvet rollrim CentralEccentric |
| Ring (veil) | Brown rollrim No ring | Velvet rollrim No ring |
| Volva | Brown rollrim No volva | Velvet rollrim No volva |
| ⚠ Substrate | Brown rollrim Soil | Velvet rollrim On woodDead wood |
| ⚠ Nutrition type | Brown rollrim Mycorrhizal | Velvet rollrim Saprotroph |
| ⚠ Partner trees | Brown rollrim BirchAspenOak | Velvet rollrim PineSpruce |
📅 Seasonality
🔬 Morphology
Cap
Brown rollrim
Cap 5–15 cm across, convex in young mushrooms, then depressed or funnel-shaped. Surface smooth, hairy-felty in young ones, almost bare in mature ones, olive brown or yellowish brown, sticky in wet weather. The margin stays rolled under for a long time — a characteristic feature.
Velvet rollrim
The cap is large: usually 5–15 cm, and some reach 30 cm. It starts out convex, then flattens, sinks in the center and often becomes tongue-shaped or wavy, while the margin stays rolled under for a long time.
The color is rusty brown, ochre brown or walnut brown, often with darker patches. The surface is dry and finely felted, like suede to the touch.
Hymenophore
Brown rollrim
Gills crowded, thin, ocher-yellow or olive, easily separating from the flesh when pressed, browning when damaged. They run down the stem. This tendency to brown when pressed is a useful identification feature.
Velvet rollrim
The gills are crowded, cream-yellow or pale ochre, browning with age. They run down the stem and near it they fork and join up with cross-veins. They darken when pressed.
The spore print is yellowish brown.
Stem
Brown rollrim
Stem 3–8 cm tall, 1–2 cm thick, firm, solid, cylindrical or tapering downward, the same color as the cap or slightly paler. No ring and no volva.
Velvet rollrim
The stem is short and very thick: 2–7 cm tall, sometimes up to 12 cm, and 1.5–3.5 cm wide, up to 5 cm on big specimens. It's central or off to one side, cylindrical or widening toward the base, and often sunk into wood or moss.
The key feature of the species: the stem is densely covered in dark brown, almost black velvety down. There is no ring.
Flesh
Brown rollrim
Flesh yellowish cream or brownish, firm in young ones, looser in mature ones. Browns when damaged. Has a slightly acrid or sourish taste. Does not exude milk.
Velvet rollrim
The flesh is firm, whitish, yellowish or ochre, and darkens on exposure to air. The taste is sometimes bitterish, and unpleasant in old specimens. Insects rarely eat it: when the fruit body is damaged, it produces substances that deter insects.
Smell
Brown rollrim
Smell sourish and pleasant, like fruit or vinegar, especially in mature mushrooms. This neutral, even pleasant smell is exactly what helped the mushroom pass as edible for so long.
Velvet rollrim
The smell is faint and unremarkable. So you can't recognize the velvet rollrim by smell; look at the stem and at where the mushroom is growing instead.
📍 Habitats
Brown rollrim
Velvet rollrim
👀 Similar mushrooms — don't mix them up!
❓ Frequently asked questions
Can Velvet rollrim and Brown rollrim be mixed up?
How to tell Velvet rollrim from Brown rollrim?
Which is more dangerous — Velvet rollrim or Brown rollrim?
Is Brown rollrim edible?
When do Velvet rollrim and Brown rollrim grow?
Sources
- [1]Атлас грибів України, Зеров Д.К. (1979)
- [2]GBIF
- [3]First Nature, Pat O'Reilly
- [4]Вікіпедія (українська)
- [5]Wikipedia (English)
- [6]Википедия (русская)