How to tell Orange grisette from Fly agaric
Orange grisette and Fly agaric look alike, so they're easy to mix up — but Orange grisette is conditionally edible, while Fly agaric is poisonous. The main visible difference: ring (veil): Orange grisette — no ring, Fly agaric — ring present. The mushrooms also differ in the following features: cap surface. If you have even the slightest doubt, leave the mushroom be.
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| Characteristic | Orange grisette | Fly agaric |
|---|---|---|
| Edibility class | Orange grisette: Conditionally edible | Fly agaric: Poisonous |
| Size | Orange grisette: Medium (5–15 cm), Large (over 15 cm) | Fly agaric: Large (over 15 cm) |
| Cap colour | Orange grisette: Orange, Pale yellow | Fly agaric: Red, Orange |
| Cap shape | Orange grisette: Convex, Umbonate, Flat | Fly agaric: Convex, Flat |
| Cap surface | Orange grisette: Smooth | Fly agaric: Scaly |
| Taste | Orange grisette: — | Fly agaric: Neutral taste |
| Smell | Orange grisette: Odourless, Pleasant, mushroomy | Fly agaric: Odourless |
| Stem | Orange grisette: Central, Hollow | Fly agaric: Central, Bulbous |
| Ring (veil) | Orange grisette: No ring | Fly agaric: Ring present |
| Substrate | Orange grisette: Soil, Moss | Fly agaric: Soil |
| Partner trees | Orange grisette: Birch, Beech | Fly agaric: Birch, Pine, Spruce |
| Growth habit | Orange grisette: Solitary, In groups | Fly agaric: In groups, In rings |
Same in both: season, use, flesh colour change, hymenophore, volva, nutrition type.
POISONOUS
Eating it causes poisoning. Do not pick it unless you have identified it with certainty.
Contains muscimol and ibotenic acid. Symptoms usually appear within 30–90 min (up to 3 h has been described in children): hallucinations, disorientation, nausea, tachycardia. Rarely fatal, but it needs medical attention.
If you suspect poisoning, call your local emergency number (112 in the EU, 999 in the UK) immediately
When and where they meet
Together: September–October
Their seasons overlap: September–October. At that time you can find both in the same woods. Shared habitats: mixed forest, deciduous forest.
What they look like
Cap, Hymenophore, Stem, Flesh, Smell
Cap
Orange grisette
The cap is 5 to 12 cm across, egg-shaped as it breaks out of the sac, then bell-shaped and convex, finally flat with a low, darker central bump.
It's yellow-orange to orange-brown with an apricot tinge in the centre, paler towards the edge. The surface is smooth and shiny, slightly sticky when wet, and almost never carries patches of veil. The edge is grooved like a comb.
Fly agaric
The cap is 8–20 cm across, egg-shaped when young, then flattened-convex or almost flat. It's bright red or orange-red, fading to orange in old mushrooms, and covered with white or yellowish warts, the remnants of the universal veil (rain washes them off easily).
Hymenophore
Orange grisette
The gills are free, crowded, white to cream, with shorter gills of varying length in between.
The spore print is white.
Fly agaric
The gills are free, crowded and white, and don't change colour. Spore print white. White gills combined with a red cap, a ring and a volva are a reliable set of amanita features.
Stem
Orange grisette
The stem is 10 to 15 cm tall, up to 20 cm, and 1 to 2 cm thick, tapering upwards, hollow and brittle with age, pale to deep orange with a white-and-orange zig-zag pattern of soft scales, like snakeskin. There's no ring and no bulb.
At the base is a large, thick, loose white sac (volva), often lobed and hidden in the soil.
Fly agaric
The stem is 8–18 cm tall and 1.5–2.5 cm thick, white and cylindrical, with a swollen, bulbous base. High on the stem there's a well-developed membranous ring, and at the base a volva that breaks up into several rings of warts on the bulb, often hidden in the soil.
Flesh
Orange grisette
The flesh is thin, white, soft and fragile, and doesn't change colour when cut.
Fly agaric
The flesh is soft and white, yellowish under the cap skin, and doesn't change colour when cut. No distinctive smell. Even flesh with no smell and no sharp taste contains toxic isoxazoles.
Smell
Orange grisette
The smell is faint: some sources call it sweet and mushroomy, others indistinct.
Fly agaric
The smell is faint, neutral or slightly sweetish. That very lack of an off-putting smell is part of the fly agaric's “trap”: the mushroom looks attractive and its smell doesn't warn you off.
Related comparisons
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