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How to tell Tawny funnel from Brown rollrim

Brown rollrim is poisonous
All about Tawny funnel
All about Brown rollrim

Tawny funnel and Brown rollrim look alike, so they're easy to mix up — but Tawny funnel is conditionally edible, while Brown rollrim is poisonous. The main visible difference: flesh colour change: Tawny funnel — no change, Brown rollrim — darkens. The mushrooms also differ in the following features: cap surface. If you have even the slightest doubt, leave the mushroom be.

Not sure? Identify by photo

Side by side

Tawny funnelBrown rollrim
Comparison of characteristics: Tawny funnel and Brown rollrim
Edibility classTawny funnel: Conditionally edibleBrown rollrim: Poisonous
SeasonTawny funnel: Autumn, WinterBrown rollrim: Summer, Autumn
UseTawny funnel: CulinaryBrown rollrim: Not eaten
Cap colourTawny funnel: Orange, Rusty, BrownBrown rollrim: Brown, Olive
Cap shapeTawny funnel: Funnel-shaped, Depressed, ConvexBrown rollrim: Concave, Funnel-shaped
Cap surfaceTawny funnel: SmoothBrown rollrim: Dry, Velvety, Slimy
TasteTawny funnel: Mild, BitterBrown rollrim: Bitter
SmellTawny funnel: Pleasant, OdourlessBrown rollrim: Sour, Fruity, Pleasant
Flesh colour changeTawny funnel: No changeBrown rollrim: Darkens
StemTawny funnel: Central, HollowBrown rollrim: Central, Solid
SubstrateTawny funnel: Conifer needle litter, Leaf litter, Forest litter, SoilBrown rollrim: Soil
Nutrition typeTawny funnel: SaprotrophBrown rollrim: Mycorrhizal
Partner treesTawny funnel: Pine, Spruce, Fir, Oak, Beech, HornbeamBrown rollrim: Birch, Aspen, Oak, Spruce, Pine
Growth habitTawny funnel: In groups, In ringsBrown rollrim: In groups

Same in both: size, hymenophore.

When and where they meet

Together: September–November

Their seasons overlap: September–November. At that time you can find both in the same woods. Shared habitats: conifer forest, mixed forest, deciduous forest.

Tawny funnel

Fruiting season

September – December

Brown rollrim

Fruiting season

August – November

What they look like

Cap, Hymenophore, Stem, Flesh, Smell

Cap

Tawny funnel

The cap is 4–10 cm across, occasionally bigger. Young caps are convex with an inrolled margin, then flatten, sink in the centre and become funnel-shaped, often with a wavy edge and little spouts. Late in the season caps can stay squat, with hardly any dip.

The colour is tawny, orange-brown, brick or reddish brown, and paler, almost yellowish in some specimens. The surface is smooth: shiny in mushrooms from conifer woods, matt and silky in those from broadleaf woods. As it dries the cap fades to buff, and old caps develop darker spots that give a marbled look.

Brown rollrim

Cap 5–15 cm across, convex in young mushrooms, then depressed or funnel-shaped. Surface smooth, hairy-felty in young ones, almost bare in mature ones, olive brown or yellowish brown, sticky in wet weather. The margin stays rolled under for a long time — a characteristic feature.

Hymenophore

Tawny funnel

The gills are very crowded and narrow, with many short gills in between, and run far down the stem. They start whitish or cream, turn tawny cream and then brownish in old specimens, but always stay paler than the cap. They don't fork, and they come away from the flesh fairly easily.

The spore print is white to cream, sometimes with a faint pinkish tint. A brown print means it isn't a tawny funnel; the brown rollrim, for example, gives one.

Brown rollrim

Gills crowded, thin, ochre-yellow or olive, easily separating from the flesh when pressed, browning when damaged. They run down the stem. This tendency to brown when pressed is a useful identification feature.

Stem

Tawny funnel

The stem is 3–7 cm tall and 0.5–1.5 cm thick, the same colour as the cap but paler. It's tough, slightly fibrous, and becomes hollow with age.

The base is covered in fluffy white mycelium that binds needles and litter into a clump. There is no ring, no veil remnants and no volva.

Brown rollrim

Stem 3–8 cm tall, 1–2 cm thick, firm, solid, cylindrical or tapering downward, the same colour as the cap or slightly paler. No ring and no volva.

Flesh

Tawny funnel

The flesh is thin, especially in the cap, whitish to pale cream, doesn't change colour when broken and has no milk. The taste is unremarkable, sometimes slightly bitter.

Brown rollrim

Flesh yellowish cream or brownish, firm in young ones, looser in mature ones. Browns when damaged. Has a slightly acrid or sourish taste. Does not exude milk.

Smell

Tawny funnel

The smell is faint, sweetish or slightly spicy, and in many specimens barely noticeable. Don't rely on smell to identify it: the toxic look-alike Paralepistopsis amoenolens also smells sweet and floral, only more strongly.

Brown rollrim

Smell sourish and pleasant, like fruit or vinegar, especially in mature mushrooms. This neutral, even pleasant smell is exactly what helped the mushroom pass as edible for so long.

Related comparisons

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