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Vinegar cup or Elastic saddle

How they differ, how to recognize them and which is more dangerous — a mushroom comparison

The short answer

Vinegar cup and Elastic saddle are similar species that can be mixed up while foraging. The main visible difference: season: Vinegar cup — spring, summer, Elastic saddle — summer, autumn. The mushrooms also differ in the following features: size, cap color, cap shape.

Vinegar cup (Helvella acetabulum)

Vinegar cup

Helvella acetabulum

Conditionally edibleExpert-verified
Elastic saddle (Helvella elastica)

Elastic saddle

Helvella elastica

Conditionally edibleExpert-verified

📊 Comparing characteristics

Comparison of characteristics: Vinegar cup and Elastic saddle
Edibility class

Vinegar cup

Conditionally edible

Elastic saddle

Conditionally edible
Season

Vinegar cup

SpringSummer

Elastic saddle

SummerAutumn
Use

Vinegar cup

Cook fresh

Elastic saddle

Cook fresh
Size

Vinegar cup

Medium (5–15 cm)

Elastic saddle

Small (up to 5 cm)
Cap color

Vinegar cup

YellowBrownGrey

Elastic saddle

CreamYellowGreyBrown
Cap shape

Vinegar cup

Depressed

Elastic saddle

Irregular
Cap surface

Vinegar cup

Smooth

Elastic saddle

Smooth
Taste

Vinegar cup

Mild

Elastic saddle

Mild
Smell

Vinegar cup

Odorless

Elastic saddle

Odorless
Flesh color change

Vinegar cup

No change

Elastic saddle

No change
Hymenophore

Vinegar cup

Smooth

Elastic saddle

Smooth
Stem

Vinegar cup

Central

Elastic saddle

Central
Ring (veil)

Vinegar cup

No ring

Elastic saddle

No ring
Volva

Vinegar cup

No volva

Elastic saddle

No volva
Substrate

Vinegar cup

SoilForest litter

Elastic saddle

SoilForest litter
Nutrition type

Vinegar cup

Saprotroph

Elastic saddle

Saprotroph

📅 Seasonality

Vinegar cup

Fruiting season

Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Nov
Dec

May – July

Elastic saddle

Fruiting season

Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Nov
Dec

August – October

🔬 Morphology

Cap

Vinegar cup

Fruit body up to 8 cm across, cup- or saucer-shaped, 2-4 cm deep. Outer surface yellowish brown, finely warty; inner surface (where the hymenium lies) smooth, yellowish gray-brown, with a silky sheen. Margins thin, often split in mature cups, with an uneven outline.

Elastic saddle

Cap 1.5-4 cm, two-lobed, saddle-shaped — made up of two distinct lobes hanging over the stem. Color pale yellowish to grayish brown. Surface smooth, without pronounced texture. Margins free, not fused to the stem — this sets it apart from Helvella crispa.

Hymenophore

Vinegar cup

Smooth hymenium on the inner surface of the cup. Spores mature in asci within the hymenial layer. Spore print whitish to cream, spores elliptical, smooth. Chemically, a typical ascomycete.

Elastic saddle

Smooth hymenium on the upper (convex) surface of the cap. Ascomycete structure — spores form in asci. Spore print white. Spores ellipsoid, smooth, 17-20 × 10-15 µm — large, typical of the genus.

Stem

Vinegar cup

Stem short, 2-4 cm tall, 1-2 cm thick, with sharply defined lengthwise ribs that run up to the base of the cup and continue onto its outer surface. Color cream or whitish. This is the key diagnostic feature of the species.

Elastic saddle

Stem 2-6 cm tall, 3-6 mm thick, cylindrical, slender, hollow inside. Color white, smooth, without distinct ribs (unlike other Helvella). This is the key feature of the species — a smooth stem, not a grooved one.

Flesh

Vinegar cup

The flesh is thin, waxy and brittle, whitish. Doesn't change color when cut. Fragile texture, like in all Helvella.

Elastic saddle

The flesh is thin, waxy and springy, white. Doesn't change color when cut. Springy — it regains its shape after bending, hence the name “elastic.”

Smell

Vinegar cup

No pronounced smell, faintly mushroomy. We don't taste it — the mushroom is potentially toxic when raw.

Elastic saddle

No noticeable smell. We don't taste it raw — potentially toxic.

📍 Habitats

Vinegar cup

Conifer forestDeciduous forestMixed forest

Elastic saddle

Deciduous forestMixed forest

👀 Similar mushrooms — don't mix them up!

❓ Frequently asked questions

Can Vinegar cup and Elastic saddle be mixed up?
Yes, they look so similar that people often mix them up. The season, size, cap color help tell them apart.
How to tell Vinegar cup from Elastic saddle?
The main differences: season: Vinegar cup — spring, summer, Elastic saddle — summer, autumn; size: Vinegar cup — medium (5–15 cm), Elastic saddle — small (up to 5 cm); cap color: Vinegar cup — yellow, brown, grey, Elastic saddle — cream, yellow, grey, brown. The full table of characteristics is higher up on this page.
Is Elastic saddle edible?
Elastic saddle — conditionally edible.
When do Vinegar cup and Elastic saddle grow?
Vinegar cup — May–July; Elastic saddle — August–October.

Sources

  • [1]Вікіпедія (українська)
  • [2]Атлас грибів України, Зеров Д.К. (1979)
  • [3]MycoBank Database
  • [4]Index Fungorum
  • [5]GBIF
  • [6]iNaturalist Ukraine