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Vinegar cup or Elfin saddle

How they differ, how to recognize them and which is more dangerous — a mushroom comparison

The short answer

Vinegar cup and Elfin saddle are similar species: Vinegar cup is conditionally edible, while Elfin saddle is inedible. The main visible difference: season: Vinegar cup — spring, summer, Elfin saddle — autumn. The mushrooms also differ in the following features: use, cap color, cap shape.

Vinegar cup (Helvella acetabulum)

Vinegar cup

Helvella acetabulum

Conditionally edibleExpert-verified
Elfin saddle (Helvella lacunosa)

Elfin saddle

Helvella lacunosa

InedibleExpert-verified

📊 Comparing characteristics

Comparison of characteristics: Vinegar cup and Elfin saddle
Edibility class

Vinegar cup

Conditionally edible

Elfin saddle

Inedible
Season

Vinegar cup

SpringSummer

Elfin saddle

Autumn
Use

Vinegar cup

Cook fresh

Elfin saddle

Not eaten
Size

Vinegar cup

Medium (5–15 cm)

Elfin saddle

Medium (5–15 cm)
Cap color

Vinegar cup

YellowBrownGrey

Elfin saddle

GreyBlackDark brown
Cap shape

Vinegar cup

Depressed

Elfin saddle

Irregular
Cap surface

Vinegar cup

Smooth

Elfin saddle

Smooth
Taste

Vinegar cup

Mild

Elfin saddle

Unknown
Smell

Vinegar cup

Odorless

Elfin saddle

Odorless
Flesh color change

Vinegar cup

No change

Elfin saddle

No change
Hymenophore

Vinegar cup

Smooth

Elfin saddle

Smooth
Stem

Vinegar cup

Central

Elfin saddle

Central
Ring (veil)

Vinegar cup

No ring

Elfin saddle

No ring
Volva

Vinegar cup

No volva

Elfin saddle

No volva
Substrate

Vinegar cup

SoilForest litter

Elfin saddle

Soil
Nutrition type

Vinegar cup

Saprotroph

Elfin saddle

Saprotroph

📅 Seasonality

Vinegar cup

Fruiting season

Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Nov
Dec

May – July

Elfin saddle

Fruiting season

Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Nov
Dec

September – November

🔬 Morphology

Cap

Vinegar cup

Fruit body up to 8 cm across, cup- or saucer-shaped, 2-4 cm deep. Outer surface yellowish brown, finely warty; inner surface (where the hymenium lies) smooth, yellowish gray-brown, with a silky sheen. Margins thin, often split in mature cups, with an uneven outline.

Elfin saddle

Cap 3-5 cm, irregularly saddle-shaped, with 2-4 lobes. Color dark gray, graphite, almost black in old specimens. Surface smooth, with a silky sheen in wet weather. Margins wavy and contorted. Partly fused to the stem at the top.

Hymenophore

Vinegar cup

Smooth hymenium on the inner surface of the cup. Spores mature in asci within the hymenial layer. Spore print whitish to cream, spores elliptical, smooth. Chemically, a typical ascomycete.

Elfin saddle

Smooth hymenium on the upper (outer) surface of the cap lobes. Ascomycete structure — spores form in asci. Spore print white. Spores ellipsoid, smooth, 17-20 × 10-13 µm.

Stem

Vinegar cup

Stem short, 2-4 cm tall, 1-2 cm thick, with sharply defined lengthwise ribs that run up to the base of the cup and continue onto its outer surface. Color cream or whitish. This is the key diagnostic feature of the species.

Elfin saddle

Stem up to 6 cm tall, 1-2 cm thick, cylindrical, hollow inside. Color pale gray, darkening toward the base. Surface with prominent lengthwise ribs and distinctive pits (lacunae) — hence the name. The ribbed structure is like that of crispa, but the color is completely different.

Flesh

Vinegar cup

The flesh is thin, waxy and brittle, whitish. Doesn't change color when cut. Fragile texture, like in all Helvella.

Elfin saddle

The flesh is thin, waxy and brittle, grayish white. Doesn't change color when cut. Fragile texture.

Smell

Vinegar cup

No pronounced smell, faintly mushroomy. We don't taste it — the mushroom is potentially toxic when raw.

Elfin saddle

Faint mushroomy smell, no sharp notes. We don't taste it — potentially toxic.

📍 Habitats

Vinegar cup

Conifer forestDeciduous forestMixed forest

Elfin saddle

Conifer forestDeciduous forestMixed forest

👀 Similar mushrooms — don't mix them up!

❓ Frequently asked questions

Can Vinegar cup and Elfin saddle be mixed up?
Yes, they look so similar that people often mix them up. The season, use, cap color help tell them apart.
How to tell Vinegar cup from Elfin saddle?
The main differences: season: Vinegar cup — spring, summer, Elfin saddle — autumn; use: Vinegar cup — cook fresh, Elfin saddle — not eaten; cap color: Vinegar cup — yellow, brown, grey, Elfin saddle — grey, black, dark brown. As for edibility: Vinegar cup is conditionally edible, Elfin saddle is inedible. The full table of characteristics is higher up on this page.
Is Elfin saddle edible?
Elfin saddle — inedible.
When do Vinegar cup and Elfin saddle grow?
Vinegar cup — May–July; Elfin saddle — September–November.

Sources

  • [1]Вікіпедія (українська)
  • [2]Атлас грибів України, Зеров Д.К. (1979)
  • [3]MycoBank Database
  • [4]Index Fungorum
  • [5]GBIF
  • [6]iNaturalist Ukraine