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How to tell The miller from Livid pinkgill

How they differ, how to recognize them and which is more dangerous — a mushroom comparison

Warning: Livid pinkgill(Entoloma sinuatum)

The short answer

The miller and Livid pinkgill look alike, so they're easy to mix up — but The miller is edible, while Livid pinkgill is poisonous. The main visible difference: use: The miller — cook fresh, pickling, Livid pinkgill — not eaten. The mushrooms also differ in the following features: size, cap color, cap shape. If you have even the slightest doubt, leave the mushroom be.

Livid pinkgill (Entoloma sinuatum)

Livid pinkgill

Entoloma sinuatum

PoisonousExpert-verified
The miller (Clitopilus prunulus) in hand in an oak wood: a wavy white cap, decurrent pinkish-cream gills and white stem

The miller

Clitopilus prunulus

EdibleExpert-verified

📊 Comparing characteristics

⚠ Highlighted rows are the key differences between the edible and the dangerous mushroom

Comparison of characteristics: Livid pinkgill and The miller
⚠ Edibility class

Livid pinkgill

Poisonous

The miller

Edible
Season

Livid pinkgill

SummerAutumn

The miller

SummerAutumn
⚠ Use

Livid pinkgill

Not eaten

The miller

Cook freshPickling
⚠ Size

Livid pinkgill

Large (over 15 cm)

The miller

Small (up to 5 cm)
⚠ Cap color

Livid pinkgill

WhiteCreamGreyYellow

The miller

WhiteCream
⚠ Cap shape

Livid pinkgill

Convex

The miller

Funnel-shaped
Cap surface

Livid pinkgill

Smooth

The miller

Smooth
Taste

Livid pinkgill

Mild

The miller

Mild
Smell

Livid pinkgill

Floury

The miller

Floury
Flesh color change

Livid pinkgill

No change

The miller

No change
Hymenophore

Livid pinkgill

Gilled

The miller

Gilled
Stem

Livid pinkgill

Central

The miller

Central
Ring (veil)

Livid pinkgill

No ring

The miller

No ring
Volva

Livid pinkgill

No volva

The miller

No volva
⚠ Substrate

Livid pinkgill

Soil

The miller

SoilForest litter
⚠ Nutrition type

Livid pinkgill

Mycorrhizal

The miller

Saprotroph
⚠ Partner trees

Livid pinkgill

OakBeechHornbeamHazel

The miller

OakBeechHornbeamBirch

📅 Seasonality

Livid pinkgill

Fruiting season

Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Nov
Dec

July – October

The miller

Fruiting season

Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Nov
Dec

June – October

🔬 Morphology

Cap

Livid pinkgill

Cap 6-20 cm across, hemispherical to convex in young mushrooms, spreading out with age, with a broad umbo in the center. Color pale gray, dirty white, ivory, with a yellowish or yellowish-livid tint — hence the name. The surface is smooth and silky-shiny, slippery in the rain and dry in dry weather. The cap skin is tough and does not peel.

The miller

Cap 3-10 cm across; hemispherical in young mushrooms, later becoming convex-flat to funnel-shaped with a thin, wavy margin. Color white to cream, with a faint grayish-pink tint in old specimens. Surface smooth, dryish, slightly sticky in wet weather. The cap margin is thin.

Hymenophore

Livid pinkgill

Gills. The gills are fairly broad (up to 1 cm), notched where they meet the stem; in young mushrooms they are whitish-yellowish, with age they take on a characteristic pinkish, then salmon color. Spore print pinkish-brown — the key diagnostic feature of the whole genus Entoloma.

The miller

Gilled hymenophore — the gills are running down the stem (decurrent), crowded, thin. In young mushrooms — whitish, with age they become pink from the ripened pink spores. Spore print PINK — it narrows things down to a few genera, but it doesn't separate the miller from the livid pinkgill, whose print is pink too. Most gilled mushrooms have a white or brown spore print — a pink one tells you it's either the miller or an Entoloma.

Stem

Livid pinkgill

Stem 5-15 cm tall, 1-3 cm thick, cylindrical, thickened toward the base. Color whitish to dirty white. The surface is lengthwise-fibrous, with no ring. Flesh of the stem is firm, hollow in old mushrooms.

The miller

Stem 3-7 cm tall, 0.7-1.5 cm thick, cylindrical, relatively short, often tapering toward the base. Color white to cream. Surface with fine lengthwise fibers. No ring and no volva.

Flesh

Livid pinkgill

Flesh is thick, meaty, white, does not change color when cut. The smell and taste of the fresh flesh are pleasant, mealy-cucumber — which makes this species all the more treacherous: it smells and tastes “right”, and nothing raises suspicion while you clean it.

The miller

Flesh firm, white, when cut it doesn't change color. Smell distinctly mealy — like raw dough or freshly milled grain — the most characteristic feature of the species.

Smell

Livid pinkgill

Mealy-cucumber — typical of many Entoloma. In old mushrooms it's sourish and unpleasant. The taste is mild and mealy. Do NOT rely on taste for identification — it tells you nothing about toxicity.

The miller

Distinctly mealy and pleasant, like raw dough or freshly milled grain (Russian sources call it "the smell of cucumber flour"). Fresh, not rancid — this sets it apart from the livid pinkgill, whose smell is also mealy, but with a sour or rancid note.

📍 Habitats

Livid pinkgill

Deciduous forestMixed forest

The miller

Deciduous forestMixed forest

👀 Similar mushrooms — don't mix them up!

❓ Frequently asked questions

Can The miller and Livid pinkgill be mixed up?
Yes. These species look alike, and Livid pinkgill is poisonous, so a mistake is dangerous. Pay attention to the use, size, cap color.
How to tell The miller from Livid pinkgill?
The main differences: use: The miller — cook fresh, pickling, Livid pinkgill — not eaten; size: The miller — small (up to 5 cm), Livid pinkgill — large (over 15 cm); cap color: The miller — white, cream, Livid pinkgill — white, cream, grey, yellow. As for edibility: The miller is edible, Livid pinkgill is poisonous. The full table of characteristics is higher up on this page.
Which is more dangerous — The miller or Livid pinkgill?
More dangerous: Livid pinkgill, which is poisonous. The miller is edible. If you have even the slightest doubt, don't pick the mushroom.
Is Livid pinkgill edible?
Livid pinkgill — poisonous. It must not be picked or eaten.
When do The miller and Livid pinkgill grow?
The miller — June–October; Livid pinkgill — July–October.

Sources

  • [1]Вікіпедія (українська)
  • [2]Атлас грибів України, Зеров Д.К. (1979)
  • [3]MycoBank Database
  • [4]Index Fungorum
  • [5]GBIF
  • [6]iNaturalist Ukraine