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How to tell Clouded funnel from Livid pinkgill

How they differ, how to recognize them and which is more dangerous — a mushroom comparison

Warning: Livid pinkgill(Entoloma sinuatum)

The short answer

Clouded funnel and Livid pinkgill look alike, so they're easy to mix up — but Clouded funnel is conditionally edible, while Livid pinkgill is poisonous. The main visible difference: season: Clouded funnel — autumn, Livid pinkgill — summer, autumn. The mushrooms also differ in the following features: use, cap color, substrate. If you have even the slightest doubt, leave the mushroom be.

Livid pinkgill (Entoloma sinuatum)

Livid pinkgill

Entoloma sinuatum

PoisonousExpert-verified
Clouded funnel (Clitocybe nebularis)

Clouded funnel

Clitocybe nebularis

Conditionally edibleExpert-verified

📊 Comparing characteristics

⚠ Highlighted rows are the key differences between the edible and the dangerous mushroom

Comparison of characteristics: Livid pinkgill and Clouded funnel
⚠ Edibility class

Livid pinkgill

Poisonous

Clouded funnel

Conditionally edible
⚠ Season

Livid pinkgill

SummerAutumn

Clouded funnel

Autumn
⚠ Use

Livid pinkgill

Not eaten

Clouded funnel

Cook freshPickling
Size

Livid pinkgill

Large (over 15 cm)

Clouded funnel

Large (over 15 cm)
⚠ Cap color

Livid pinkgill

WhiteCreamGreyYellow

Clouded funnel

GreyBrown
Cap shape

Livid pinkgill

Convex

Clouded funnel

Convex
Cap surface

Livid pinkgill

Smooth

Clouded funnel

Smooth
Taste

Livid pinkgill

Mild

Clouded funnel

Mild
Smell

Livid pinkgill

Floury

Clouded funnel

Floury
Flesh color change

Livid pinkgill

No change

Clouded funnel

No change
Hymenophore

Livid pinkgill

Gilled

Clouded funnel

Gilled
Stem

Livid pinkgill

Central

Clouded funnel

Central
Ring (veil)

Livid pinkgill

No ring

Clouded funnel

No ring
Volva

Livid pinkgill

No volva

Clouded funnel

No volva
⚠ Substrate

Livid pinkgill

Soil

Clouded funnel

SoilForest litter
⚠ Nutrition type

Livid pinkgill

Mycorrhizal

Clouded funnel

Saprotroph
⚠ Partner trees

Livid pinkgill

OakBeechHornbeamHazel

Clouded funnel

OakBeechSpruceBirch

📅 Seasonality

Livid pinkgill

Fruiting season

Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Nov
Dec

July – October

Clouded funnel

Fruiting season

Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Nov
Dec

October – November

🔬 Morphology

Cap

Livid pinkgill

Cap 6-20 cm across, hemispherical to convex in young mushrooms, spreading out with age, with a broad umbo in the center. Color pale gray, dirty white, ivory, with a yellowish or yellowish-livid tint — hence the name. The surface is smooth and silky-shiny, slippery in the rain and dry in dry weather. The cap skin is tough and does not peel.

Clouded funnel

The cap is large: 8-20 cm across, hemispherical to convex in young mushrooms, with an inrolled margin, later flattening out with a small bump in the center. The color is smoky gray, mouse-gray, darker in wet weather and lighter in dry weather. The surface is silky-matte, with a thin whitish bloom (as if dusted with flour). The cap margin is often wavy and curled downward.

Hymenophore

Livid pinkgill

Gills. The gills are fairly broad (up to 1 cm), notched where they meet the stem; in young mushrooms they are whitish-yellowish, with age they take on a characteristic pinkish, then salmon color. Spore print pinkish-brown — the key diagnostic feature of the whole genus Entoloma.

Clouded funnel

The underside has gills. The gills are crowded, thin, decurrent down the stem. Whitish to cream, turning cream-ochre with age. The spore print is white to pale cream. The gills detach easily from the cap — a characteristic feature of the genus.

Stem

Livid pinkgill

Stem 5-15 cm tall, 1-3 cm thick, cylindrical, thickened toward the base. Color whitish to dirty white. The surface is lengthwise-fibrous, with no ring. Flesh of the stem is firm, hollow in old mushrooms.

Clouded funnel

The stem is sturdy: 5-10 cm tall, 2-4 cm thick, cylindrical or thickening toward the base. White to dirty grayish-cream. The surface is lengthwise fibrous, with white mycelial fuzz at the base. No ring. The stem flesh is firm, becoming hollow with age.

Flesh

Livid pinkgill

Flesh is thick, meaty, white, does not change color when cut. The smell and taste of the fresh flesh are pleasant, mealy-cucumber — which makes this species all the more treacherous: it smells and tastes “right”, and nothing raises suspicion while you clean it.

Clouded funnel

The flesh is thick and white, firm in young mushrooms and looser in old ones. It doesn't change color when cut. It has a distinct mealy smell and a mild taste.

Smell

Livid pinkgill

Mealy-cucumber — typical of many Entoloma. In old mushrooms it's sourish and unpleasant. The taste is mild and mealy. Do NOT rely on taste for identification — it tells you nothing about toxicity.

Clouded funnel

Strongly mealy, with a hint of cucumber — typical of the species. In old mushrooms it's sourish and unpleasant. The smell is so distinctive that it's used as a diagnostic feature for identification in the field.

📍 Habitats

Livid pinkgill

Deciduous forestMixed forest

Clouded funnel

Deciduous forestConifer forestMixed forest

👀 Similar mushrooms — don't mix them up!

❓ Frequently asked questions

Can Clouded funnel and Livid pinkgill be mixed up?
Yes. These species look alike, and Livid pinkgill is poisonous, so a mistake is dangerous. Pay attention to the season, use, cap color.
How to tell Clouded funnel from Livid pinkgill?
The main differences: season: Clouded funnel — autumn, Livid pinkgill — summer, autumn; use: Clouded funnel — cook fresh, pickling, Livid pinkgill — not eaten; cap color: Clouded funnel — grey, brown, Livid pinkgill — white, cream, grey, yellow. As for edibility: Clouded funnel is conditionally edible, Livid pinkgill is poisonous. The full table of characteristics is higher up on this page.
Which is more dangerous — Clouded funnel or Livid pinkgill?
More dangerous: Livid pinkgill, which is poisonous. Clouded funnel is conditionally edible. If you have even the slightest doubt, don't pick the mushroom.
Is Livid pinkgill edible?
Livid pinkgill — poisonous. It must not be picked or eaten.
When do Clouded funnel and Livid pinkgill grow?
Clouded funnel — October–November; Livid pinkgill — July–October.

Sources

  • [1]Вікіпедія (українська)
  • [2]Атлас грибів України, Зеров Д.К. (1979)
  • [3]MycoBank Database
  • [4]Index Fungorum
  • [5]GBIF
  • [6]iNaturalist Ukraine